Interesting question, Computer can think and sometimes it can't. Ooops!!!! Am I asking you to write about a mchine (coputer) and thinking? Yes!!! Computer will do things that make people think that it thiks. What do you think? I am not sure about this but, you might. Type your outcome from your group work on this article. Please use games if you can as your example.
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A computer has no real brain. Like the person in the Chinese room, they are just manipulating symbols. The software gives the computer all of its instructions, and it simply processes them. It can identify certain symbols, and then it can be instructed to give a certain response, but cannot think cognitively. For example, I write to the computer “You’re funny.” The computer can recognize this specific set of symbols, and give a response, “Thanks”, but it cannot challenge it or reason. It could not ask “Why”, or contradict the point “No I’m not” or give a different answer each time. Therefore, the computer cannot think for itself.
ReplyDeleteIn my opinion, I believe that computers are unable to think. Computers are merely pieces of metal put together forming a machine. Although they are very useful, provide us with information, assist us, and can complete many tasks, they cannot think. Computers are unlike us humans. Humans are alive and can think, whereas computers are non-living. One would not say a book is capable of thinking. Just because it can complete many tasks does not necessarily mean a computer can think. Computers are only programmed and instructed to respond the way we want them to respond. The concept of John Searle’s experiment proves what I feel about the topic of computers thinking. In conclusion, I believe that computers are incapable of thinking.
ReplyDeleteEver since the creation of the Turing Test, computer scientists have been trying to create a computer that will have the ability to do things that were once thought to be uniquely human. These computers that have these abilities are known as Artificial Intelligence also known as AI. Computer Scientists in this field have accomplished many things such as creating a computer that can move and manipulate limbs, computers that can play chess at a grandmaster level and computers that can respond to human speech. However, a computer still has yet to pass the Turing Test.
ReplyDeletePersonally, I do not think that these computer scientists will be able to create a "thinking' computer by the end of this century.
- Jason Baek
Can Computers Think? By Zakia Chan
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Computers can think, because compared to humans, they are exactly the same. Humans are practically organic computers, because they have what makes a computer a computer. (I.e. Humans have a processor, brain; storage, brain; input, nerves; output, nerves.) Humans are similar (to computers) when comparing functions and how they work. (I.e. Humans function with electrical pulses and CPU, and computers also function with electrical pulses and a CPU.) If we humans say we can think, then computers, who function almost identically, albeit with a few maintenances and shorter lives, must also, think. Some would say, “But even if a computer can solve complex algorithms, its still not thinking, because it just goes through a series of protocols.” But even so, humans follow a certain protocol and procedure to solve simple or complex problems. So it is impossible to not include a possibility of AI without reducing ourselves to the level of cold calculating machines.
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ReplyDelete^^ lol at above person's account. :D shaan!
ReplyDeleteThe Turing Test
ReplyDeleteAround the time of the 1950s, Alan Turing, a British mathematician wondered if computers could really think. Over the years, the subject has wide spread and has caused a debate among many computer scientists and philosophers. A strategy anticipated by Alan Turing suggested that behaviour is possibly the criteria for assuming whether a computer can think. A Turing Test was created to prove whether a computer can or cannot think based on an observation made by a human who tried to differentiate between a computer and a person. If the person could not tell the difference, the computer has the same intelligence as the human and thus, the computer can think. Currently, no computer has been proven to pass the test.
By Arianne Ghiasi
The assumption that computers can think is absolute ludicrous. The tests of machine intelligence proposed by Turing are inaccurate and far too variable. The test is simply an "easy way out"; it has far too many loose ends to be anywhere near sucessful. Moreover, programming might not even allow for the experiment to succeed - for instance, if a computer were to have been programmed to type with the occasional error to simulate human inconsistency,it would have to do so for the rest of the conversation. However, if the interrogator were to ask the computer to type perfectly for the rest of the conversation, the computer, lacking the ability of cognitive and metacognitive judgement, would have to simply type as it was, despite the order not to do so. In addition, the interrogator's viewpoint would vary from person to person; there is no absolute standard for the experiment to enforce upon potential questioners, although if they choose to do so, this would be hideously unreflective of the human population; minds can vary from the idiocy of an infant to the near-insane statuses of geniuses. This simply proves that it would be impossible to define the minds of humankind, as they are so varied and contrasted - thus proving that it would be impossible to distinguish one test result as man's own, on a whole.
ReplyDeleteMy personal thoughts if whether computers can think or not is based on a very convicincing theory. Jonhn Serbin reading's clearly states how even the most advanced artificial intelligence have the ability to think, and computers are in fact can be categorized as having artificial intelligence that software gives the computer all of its instructions, and it simply processes them.In conclusion, computers are programmed to carry out actions requested by the user, not to understand them.
ReplyDeleteI disagree with Zakia... Although computers are built to function similarly to human brains,it is still not the same. Computers are not alive, humans are.
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^at shaan (dood.....X) :D theoretically, a human also has "programming" from whence he was born,he will also be affected by his parents' dna which will affect how smart he is and how he will physically look. This is also how a computer works, so therefore, to all-together reject the possiblity of AI is entirely foolish. -Zakia Chan :D
ReplyDeleteSutina, pls try now
ReplyDeleteAngela: In my opinion, I think that computers can not think because they don’t have a will of their own. Computers can only do the will of their owners and can’t do otherwise. If they do something other than what they are ordered or commanded to do, they will either freeze or black out. Even though recently, (Since 1950), they’ve been deemed to have Artificial Intelligence (AI) none have yet passed the Turing test which can supposedly identify a computer that is more intelligent than a human. Computers can only slavishly follow the instructions of its operator or programmer, but it has no imagination or mind of its own to create its own ideas. Even when the computer had been able to write Chinese flawlessly and without effort, it was only because that had been in its programming. The ‘computers’ we know are only some machines which were inserted with data and information by the geniuses of our world. So their so called ‘Intelligence’ is actually an unfair advantage over us average smart humans due to their programmers having more information than us. For example, it’s as if a group of people who have played soccer their whole entire life have been pitted against a group of people who have only watched soccer on the television. No need to guess who’ll win! Also, even though computers may be able to create conclusions using the data that we input into them, they cannot do any critical thinking. They are unable to decide if the object is good or bad. This proves that they don’t have a brain as they can not make a decision of their own. In conclusion, the computers can only follow the orders of their operators, and can not do anything or think up anything of their own.
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ReplyDeleteBecause computers are known to be complex and intelligent machines, the question “can computers think?” is quite a controversial topic. A British mathematician named Alan Turing believes that at the end of the century the subject will have altered so much that a person will be able to speak of machines without expecting to be contradicted. The question still lies for debate amongst computer scientists and philosophers, and has been for more than half a decade.
ReplyDeleteAlthough computers are very useful and may seem as though it possesses a vast amount of knowledge, I think that computers do not have the capability of thinking. A computer consists of various pieces of complex parts made of metal to create the machine as a whole. Computers were constructed in a way that processes our commands and only our commands; it does not act or think on its own. These machines were created to benefit us and provide us with advantages in a variety of ways, so it would not be logical if a computer had a mind of its own and was able to think and do whatever it wished. Some people may assume that computers are able to think because there are endless amounts of things we are able to do with a single click of the mouse. This is true, but it does not mean computers are able to think; it simply means that WE are the ones who are thinking and entering commands into the computer that are processed and performed.
Could it be that you have to many words
ReplyDelete@joadith Computers are powered by electrical impulses, so are humans, so is it right to say we are alive while saying computers are dead? What is Death and what is life? Some human cases have been known to "rise" from the death with electrical charges. This is kind of like turning off and on. So it is entirely wrong to say a computer cannot be "alive".
ReplyDeletei agree with ruiying
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Computers cannot think like humans. It also doesn't have the type of intelligence that humans have. However, I think that computers must be able to think on some level (even if their way of thinking is different from us) and have some type of intelligence in order to carry out the tasks that it needs to.
ReplyDeleteUsing the Chinese-Room Thought Experiment, Philosopher John Searle proved that even if a computer could pass the Turing test, it did not necessarily mean that a computer could think. He stated that the computer just manipulated symbols based on a set of instructions given to it in a language that it could understand.
On the other hand, however, I think that the computer needs to think to some content in order to understand the instructions give to it in order to manipulate these symbols (just like how the English-speaking person in the Chinese-Room Thought experiment needed to think in order to understand the English instructions in order to manipulate the Chinese characters.)
Therefore, I believe that computers are able to think on some level (though different from us) in order to process information.
Lyn
One could argue about the argument in general, it isn’t truly about whether a computer has a brain or not, but the argument can be boiled down to: What defines ‘thinking’? When we define that, and only when we do, will be able to determine the difference between computing and thinking, which leads to the differentiation between data and information, if there is one. For example, The Merriam-Webster dictionary describes thinking as: “1: the action of using one's mind to produce thoughts, or 2 a : opinion, judgment b : thought that is characteristic (as of a period, group, or person) ” (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/thinking). So by this definition, computers cannot think, because they don’t have minds to produce thoughts, they have files that they compute and spit out an answer for. Another argument on the same side is that thoughts are the result of bioelectric pulses, almost, as a code spoken among neurons in order to give directions to the body.
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ReplyDeleteCPUs are not brains. Computers have not true brains. The CPU takes instructions from software and mindlessly processes information to produce a seemingly intelligent answer. If you read the example in my response, it could give an answer, but it would give the same answer every time you told the computer "You're funny". The software recognizes the specific combination of letters and tells the computer what to do, but the computer does not think to change the answer. Therefore, computers cannot think.
. Because a computer is not made of organic matter; thus incapable of creating such pulses to neurons (which is doesn’t’ even have), rendering it unable to think. This argument; however, can be disputed by the efficiency of the computer. As exhibited by the abilities of a computer to do many of the tasks human minds more efficiently and without mistakes, some consider computers to be ‘superbrains’, a superior version of ours. Overall, some argue that without establishing a basis for the argument of whether computers are capable of thought or not, it is impossible to concretely determine whether computers can ‘think’, as when definitions differ, so do opinions. So until then, the question as to whether computers can actually be capable of individual thought remains a mystery.
ReplyDeleteShaan Alis Report on the article Can Computers Think?;
ReplyDeleteI do not think computers can think. Computers react to a situation without actually knowing what they are reacting to. Some may argue to say that computers know the answer to a question before it is even asked, they don’t even have to think therefore they have an ultimate superior intelligence. This is not true because all computers have to do is respond which is what they have been programmed to do by humans (in a code form). They are only processing the data to produce information for output. A big difference between computers and humans is that computers have a specific purpose that is wired into them and they have software that tells them what to do while humans have to find a purpose and have the ability to find one. One problem that computers have and one thing they lack is intellect. Intelligence is one thing however intellect is something that can drive a person to do the right and smart thing and computers do not have this. For example, a computer may have an error in their programming or something in their programming would not seem correct to a human. The computers however will still execute the order without human consent and this could lead to trouble. This shows that computers are not perfect and have errors. No matter how hard scientists try, there still will be issues with the computer. The computer can never be perfect as it lacks key elements of humankind which are necessary in order for computers to have real intelligence.
Can Computers Think?
ReplyDeleteGroup: Shaan Ali Jessa, Rahim Hooda, Monica Narang, Angela Fan
After reading the article ‘Can Computers Think?’ we have come up with a few ideas on what we understood about the article. In our opinion, computers cannot think. This is mainly because computers can only function and do what they are programmed to do. Based on the test by Alan Turing, it has been proven that computers can not compare to humans although they have similar characteristics. We state this because to this day, not a single computer has been able to pass the Turing test. Scientists have been working on building a computer that can.....THINK!
Mr.Keishinro, thanks for letting me post my originial response. =D
ReplyDeleteAngela:
In my opinion, I think that computers cannot think because even thought they can respond to human speech, diagnose diseases, translate documents...etc, those functions are still just what they were programmed to do, not what they want to do. Even though some computers in society are technically ‘smarter’ than humans because they can do what humans have to struggle to do ex: In the article, it stated that a human who didn’t know how to read or write or speak Chinese, could communicate in Chinese AFTER understanding the set of rules to manipulate Chinese characters. But the computer, on the other hand, can manipulate Chinese characters mindlessly, but only and only because they were programmed to do it ever since they’re created. Not because they’re intelligent. This states that computers can’t think because they don’t have a mind of their own. They have no imagination and can only slavishly follow other people’s instructions and rules. They follow the will of the people who program them and can’t do otherwise. Also, the computers can’t think because they have really slow reactions. If the computer could think, then they’d be able to react to any obstacle or problem that comes their way; instead they sometimes freeze or black out. Since 1950, many computers have been deemed to have Artificial Intelligence (AI) the ability of computing to solve problems and perform tasks that were once thought to be uniquely human. Also, the ‘intelligence’ that we humans perceive from computers are only machines that were programmed by the smarter groups of our race, so their so called ‘Intelligence’ is actually an unfair advantage over us average smart humans due to their programmers having more information than us. For example, it’s as if a group of people who have played soccer their whole entire life have been pitted against a group of people who have only watched soccer on the television. No need to guess who’ll win! Also, even though computers may be able to create conclusions using the data that we input into them, they cannot do any critical thinking. They are unable to decide if the object is good or bad. This proves that they don’t have a brain as they cannot make a decision of their own. In conclusion, the computers can only follow the orders of their operators, and cannot do anything or think up anything of their own.
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ReplyDeleteI am responding to Angelas Blog
ReplyDeleteI agree with you Angela because i think that computers can’t think as well. You gave great proof that computers can’t think. Even though computers can do things humans can’t (i.e. process information very quickly), they still don’t have imagination which is something very humane that is necessary in order for computers to have real intelligence.
Topic: Philosophers VS. Mathematicians
ReplyDelete• Renowned mathematician Alan Turing wrote “I believe that at the end of the century the use of words and general educated opinion will have altered so much that one will be able to speak of machines thinking without expecting to be contradicted”.
• Turing suggested that computers can think if they have the same level of intelligence as humans, because of the fact that humans can think.
• He generated the “Turing Test” to prove whether computers can or cannot think.
• Philosopher John Searle attempted to counter the Turing test by inventing the now famous Chinese-Room Thought Experiment.
• Searle suggested that the computer is processing and outputting information without truly understanding the concept, much like how the person in the room was not comprehending Chinese but rather just following a set of instructions.
• In conclusion there are people who agree or disagree with either the Turing Test or the Chinese-Room Thought Experiment, and the question “Can computers think remains unanswered”.
@Angela
ReplyDeleteI have to agree with your argument. Computers can do things much more efficiently, but lack the intellect to make proper decisions.
Kunning
ReplyDeleteIn my opinion, I think that computer cannot think because they cannot think beyond what they have been programmed, and therefore think for themselves and generate original thoughts from their own or feeling. Computers are pre-programmed with all sorts of software and devices to give instructions to the CPU for functions and responses. They would be able to answer with a detailed and correct response sometimes even better than human being. However, if the computers are not programmed or provided with guidelines of specific information on how to accomplish a job, they are useless. This is because computer functions by reacting to a certain code with certain responses (events), they do not react further than what its instructions had told them. In this case, when there is no code can be given to the computer to answer the question, the computer may just simply freeze there with no outcomes or responses.
Can Computers Think?
ReplyDeleteI don’t think Computers can think because a computer is made by the human and humans give all the information from themselves to the computer to process. So a human inputs information to the computers and the entire computer do is follow instructions and process that information to you whenever you open it. Computers don’t think they just take time to either process information or load it. When people feed the computer information, that information will always be there, as long as it doesn’t get trashed. Computers can’t think because a human just gives it information for example, if I search it on Google, it will give me the answer to it and that answer comes from the human that put it online. Computer is very useful for a lot of different things but it can not think like a human brain
By Nazir Hakimi
Can Computers Think?
ReplyDeleteI don’t think Computers can think because a computer is made by the human and humans give all the information from themselves to the computer to process. So a human inputs information to the computers and the entire computer do is follow instructions and process that information to you whenever you open it. Computers don’t think they just take time to either process information or load it. When people feed the computer information, that information will always be there, as long as it doesn’t get trashed. Computers can’t think because a human just gives it information for example, if I search it on Google, it will give me the answer to it and that answer comes from the human that put it online. Computer is very useful for a lot of different things but it can not think like a human brain
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By Nazir Hakimi
Can Computers Think?
ReplyDeleteI think that computers can't think, because even if you have a conversation with a computer, it still wouldn't know what's going on. The Turing test is when a contestant had to guess which one of the two opponents is a computer. John Searle changed that test, so that there is an English-speaking person in one room with a set of English rules on how to manipulate Chinese character, and a stack of Chinese writing. The set of English rules and the stack of Chinese writing guide the English-speaking person in the room to write something on the paper that will be slipped under the door by a Chinese-speaking person. When the English-speaking person writes something on the paper, they are simply answering a Chinese question, but they do not know that. They only know that they have to write something on the paper that was slipped under the door, which contained Chinese writing. This test shows that even though the English-speaking person didn’t understand Chinese, it still seemed like it, because they just answered the Chinese question using the set of English rules on how to manipulate Chinese character. This test proved that computer works the same way as the English-speaking person, because when we feed the computer with instructions, it’s like giving the English-speaking person the set of English rules. All the computer has to do is follow the set of instructions, so it’s not actually following the conversation it’s having, like how the English-speaking person didn’t understand what that Chinese writing on the paper meant.
Kunning
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Contrarily, people who have not been taught with specific instructions and knowledge about certain subject would be able to infer and guess according to their prior knowledge and own opinions, sometimes even extend further than what they have instructed to do by relating the issue with modern society, express their feelings and opinions about the topic, and come up with possible solutions to the issues. Generally, people will be able to come up with a possible, related, and sometimes even the correct response to the question. For example, in the Turing test, if the contestant asked about the World War II, the compute may just simply describe facts about it, while people may talk about how their opinion on how it affected people both physically and psychologically. In conclusion, I think that computers cannot think rather than following its instructions precisely.
Can Computers Think?
ReplyDeleteComputers use artificial intelligance to think. Unlike humans computers do not have a brain they have a CPU. The CPU is a Central Processing Unit. The computer has to process data so it can get information. The computer uses symbols and numbers to think and work. The brain of the computer the CPU uses binary cords to perform its tasks. The computer is like a robot we tell it what to do so it does not need to think. So therefore i do not think an computer could think.
I disagree with Zakia because although one (Zakia)may think that computers have brains, they do not.
ReplyDeleteFurthermore, the human brain and computer "brain" are worlds apart. Human brains think creatively and can understand. However, computer processors can only carry out the functions that the program tells them to do, taking them to the level of mindless machines. In fact, computers may as well be referred to as "lemmings" of our modern world.
@Zakia,
ReplyDeleteOn the contrary computers are different from humans b/c they cannot create their own opinipon nor can they make their own decisions. Humans on the other hand have their own opinions and views on various subjects. One example of this is how some of these bloggers stated in their article:
"in my opnion....".
@Zakia,
ReplyDeleteI agree with Ruiying and Joadith. Computers cannot think. Sure they can give responses, but like ruiying said; they cannot change their responses from time to time. they can only give the same answer again and again. They cant even try to change anything because its not written in their 'programming'. Besides didnt u learn anything from science? any living organim has to grow, eat, reproduce...etc. can computers do any of that? :P
I am responding to Rahiims Blog
ReplyDeleteYou are absolutely right, computers are only machines that simply do what the user asks. Their Artificial intelligence was made and given to them by a human. The human ideally wants the computer to respond which shows that the computer is not actually thinking but just carrying out an order given to them.
http://www.snopes.com/disney/films/lemmings.asp
ReplyDeleteGo here to read about lemmings
I disagree with Zakia. Even though human does learn or receive information the similar way as computers, but sometimes we just automatically memorizes some other “non-important” information, which are not intended for us to know, while computers just “memorize” the important, necessary things what has been programmed in the software.
ReplyDeleteCan computers think?
ReplyDeleteTuring created a test called the Turing test. It was basically a game show where a contestant comes on stage and there are 2 opponents backstage, one human and the other a computer. The contestant then asks the 2 opponents questions and see which one can answer the most. At the end, the contestant is to figure out which one of the 2 opponents is human and which one is the computer. If at the end of the game the contestant can’t figure out which of the 2 opponents is a computer, then that means that the computer can think and it can compare to the human brain. First, define think. If a computer was able to figure out a solution to 32x52 does that mean it can think? In my opinion, I think no.
If a human was able to solve that question after thinking and a computer can solve that it doesn’t mean the computer can think. Think about it, a calculator can solve that does it mean the calculator can think?
Mandy P5
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I agree with Shaan Alis’ points. When there is an error in programming, the computer would not be able to fix it right away. But human in the other hand has the ability to recognize errors and differences by observing and comparing to the others, and then make changes by themselves according to what they have observed.
ReplyDelete@ruiyang Even though computers will always answer with the same answer, humans will also answer with the same response if you keep accessing them, with more creativity. That answer will not change in general(i.e. I say "youre funny".....and you respond, "i am funny" < that response will not change until someone says....."you are not funny, because your jokes are lame.") unless someone with a more logical answer come along and changes that person's opinion.
ReplyDeleteSince 1950, developed computers that can pass the Turing Test are considered to have artificial intelligence or in other words AI. AI usually refers to computers that can solve problems that normally only humans can. There have been many researchers that have developed computers that have limbs, can diagnose diseases, and even ones that can play chess, but so far no developed computer has passes the Turning Test.
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@zakia: In the dictionary, death means the act of dying; the end of life; the total and permanent cessation of all the vital functions of an ORGANISM. Computers are not organisms;they are machines. All organisms must move in order to live. Computers do not have the need to move in order to function properly.
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ReplyDeleteI believe that humans can create their own opinions. An example of this being, when Windows recommends a system update. Even though it still asks of the user's permission, it still has it's own unique opinion.
@kunning's comment even though a computer cannot fix it right away, it doesnt mean it cannot think. It just means it has less creativity. (i.e. A doctor knows how to fix a ill or injury, but the patient does not. Does that mean that the patient cannot think, and is therefore dumb?)
ReplyDeleteI agree with Mandy.
ReplyDeleteJust because computers can process things a lot faster than the human mind can ( like the answer to 2x2) does not necessarily mean that a computer can think. Computers and calculators simply process the data that is punched in by Humans.
@Jason: That's not necessarily true, that scientist haven't created a thinking robot yet. There has been a machine created by British scientists who performs his own experiments and draws conclusions by itself, based on the scientific method, which is based off self-created logic. Check it out: http://www.neoseeker.com/news/10324-robot-scientist-performs-experiments-on-yeast/
ReplyDeleteRahim your so annoying omg!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ReplyDeleteI am responding to Zakias blog
ReplyDeleteI in a way agree with you but to an extent. I agree that computers are similar to humans that they have similar parts (metaphorically) however I do not believe computers can actual think. Computers were given their ‘knowledge’ by humans in a code form. They do not really learn, they just process data not fully understanding what exactly they are doing.
If I could add on to Mandy's point, math problems require very little thought and only simple calculations are needed. Essays, however, require thinking and imagination to write. If a computer could write an essay to prove the existence of evolution, then it could think.
ReplyDeleteomg computers cannot think stop saying they can!!!!!!!!
ReplyDeletei agree with Angela, computers can't think, they are programmed to do what they do.
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@ Rahim: That's not really true, Windows recommends an update based on a set of algorithms that it uses to determine whether the system is out of date or not. It doesn't have it's own opinion on whether you should update or not, Windows has programmed it to say that you should, because they are trying to sell their product.
ReplyDeleteShaan Ali,
ReplyDeleteI agree with you, because computers contain softwares, which are a set of instructions, and a computer makes conversation using the instructions. And so they really don't know what they are doing.
@Joadith
ReplyDeleteI agree with your statement. As your supporting details have said, computers are useful machines that can perform various tasks from translating between languages and responding to human speech, this does not mean computers are capable of thinking. These complex devices are designed and produced to respond to the user’s needs whether it is through keyboard, mouse, or voice. Therefore, computers are unable to think.
I totally agree with Zakia's comment. Computers only have what the smarter kinds of our race gave them. its not really their own creativity and imagination working. its ours!
ReplyDeleteI agree with everyone who says computer cant think =P
ReplyDeletesorry i meant i agree wtih shaans comment
ReplyDelete@Zakia
ReplyDeleteI disagree with you, because although humans are similar to computers, they are not exactly the same. Humans possess a brain, and computers contain processers; these two serve the same purpose, but contrast in a variety of ways. Computers are only capable of producing the same answers, as Angela has previously stated above. Only will it change when a human programs the computer differently, which will cause the computer to compose another answer, which leads back to computer being incapable of thinking. It is the work of a human that the computer is able to produce such intelligence, which may make it seem as if computers are just as intelligent as humans.
@ angela
ReplyDeleteBut the dictionary was created by humans, so they would obviously include HUMANS as organisms. Theoretically, if it was computers that had the ability of speech and the humans as the people who sit on desks and had no way to communicate with computers, computers would automatically NOT include humans as organisms. Also, if you say, why hasnt computers talked to us? If we look at the world, we see a world of greed...if a computer could talk, wouldnt we put on exhibition and say how good we are? So, the very evidence of AI is that no computers will contact us.
I am responding to Jasons blog,
ReplyDeleteI agree with you.It seems very unrealistic that scientists will be able to come up with a computer that has real intelligence. Computers are missing key elements that humans have. If they have these elements (for example the power to perfect themselves) then they will have the ability to think and not just process data for output.
@ everyone:
ReplyDeleteComputers cannot think and have only been giving the knowledge. This is simply why when solving a math problem of x+x (where x is 3) it will get the answer of 9 much faster than us. This is because we have programmed it to have the answer 9. Basically a computer is like a 'child' and we are teaching it things, except for the minor difference that it is a non-living component and is able to understand and give a response rapidly.
^agreed
ReplyDeleteBeing creative is just another attribute of being human, its all part of natural selection.
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ReplyDeleteComputers taking instructions from software could be compared to a slave mindlessly and unquestioningly serving his or her master.
alex stop talking you talk so much !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ReplyDeleteI agree with ruying's response of when he said that essays, require thinking and imagination to write and math equations don't.
ReplyDeleteI disagree with Zakia's post and agree with Yujin's comment in the sense that you cannot compare a human's brain with a computer's. A computer and a human are seperate from each other although they might have a few things in common. A human can think for themselves and can do whatever they want. They don't have to be told what to do where as a computer needs to be told everything step by step, very precisely.
ReplyDeletelol so boring!
ReplyDelete@Sutina: Still, this robot can only make guesses on the yeast based on what it is already programmed to know. Furthermore, as Shadow of Death said, machines are better used for more repetitive tasks today and lack creative thought. So therefore, this robot must be making guesses with the yeast and what may appear on the screen as mutant yeast may just be normal yeast.
ReplyDeleteAlso, the Google Search engine also makes guesses on what a person searches. You may see the "did you mean" thing on the top of the search page. So if google makes guesses based on logic and spelling would you say that the Google Search Engine thinks?
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ReplyDeletei agree with you (:
computers are not capable to move without humans programming them to do stuff.
arman u know he reads all this
ReplyDelete@ruiyang's other comment Some complex math problems do require alot of thought and creativity. For example, the story of World War II could have been different if the nuke hadnt been created by Scientists and mathemeticians.
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ReplyDeleteI agree with you - computers can be (metaphorically speaking, of course) viewed as massive sponges, that absorb information without ever needing to think about it - in essence, they are academically superhuman, with no need to ponder or reason against the information they are given. Therefore, the thought processing that goes on in the brain before you fully understand a theorem in math class would be almost completely bypassed.
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ReplyDeleteA computer is not understanding anything but rather just doing what is was programmed to do. A great example of this is the Chinese Room Experiment where one can see that the English man did not UNDERSTAND the Chinese language but rather just followed the instructions.
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ReplyDeleteI am responding to Sutinas comment to Jason
ReplyDeleteI do not agree with you because that computer (ADAM) was processed to do its job (conducting experiments). The computer will do as its told becuase of its programming. The computer doesnt really know what its doing, its doing it blindly because of its software.
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ReplyDeleteo.oll I am totally speechless Zakia... what is going on inside ur head i would like to know. Okay say that you are right and computers can think then why havent they made any move in society? like if they could 'talk' then wouldnt they at least be able to think? which brings us back to the original point COMPUTERS CANT THINK!
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ReplyDeletemr kesinaro im sorry for talking in class i wont talk that much anymore.
ReplyDeleteComputers are awesome!
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ReplyDeleteSome math problems may require thought and creativity,but follow many fixed rules and equations. Essays do not have to adhere to any rule aside from structure and proper grammar and spelling.
Can Computers Think?
ReplyDeleteThe Answer is no. Computers can't think but they do have intelligence even if its artificial. this intelligence is called Artificial intelligence or AI for short. AI helps a computer process things like a human. Computers process things by changing the directions given into a language they understand called pascal. when they understand the process they change it back to language we understand then show it on the monitor. So for computers to think they would need to know what their doing but computers dont know. Thus Computers cannot think but can process.
Can Computers Think?
ReplyDeleteThe Answer is no. Computers can't think but they do have intelligence even if its artificial. this intelligence is called Artificial intelligence or AI for short. AI helps a computer process things like a human. Computers process things by changing the directions given into a language they understand called pascal. when they understand the process they change it back to language we understand then show it on the monitor. So for computers to think they would need to know what their doing but computers dont know. Thus Computers cannot think but can process.
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ReplyDeleteI agree with you about the fact that computers can think, because they do everything using instructions, and without them, they don't know what to do.
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ReplyDeleteBut they won't know that they don't know what to do, BECAUSE they don't have any instructions to tell the computer to not know what to do. Then commandless computers are simply empty shells.
In my opinion, computers are machines that only have the ability to process data, information and a series of instructions - they can't really think intelligently by themselves. They can’t do anything more than simply use codes to process commands and instructions that it has been programmed to do - it can't think logically or beyond what it was taught to do.
ReplyDeleteAn experiment was conducted where a person asked questions to the computer, trying to identify it. If the computer was able to keep itself unidentified, then this meant that it was as intelligent as the human sitting in front of it. However, no computer to this day has ever been able to achieve this.
If a computer could think, then wouldn’t it be able to solve any problems or difficulties that came its way? However, instead of overcoming those, sometimes the computer will tend to just run really slow or freeze. This shows that computers are pretty limited in their ways.
Computers are machines! Any business about them thinking, would not just be called thinking, it would be called thinking-like behaviour. Machines are strictly arithmetic devices. In a study, 28% of people thought that computers could think. That leaves 72% believing, that computers are unable to think.
ReplyDeleteAlan Turing created that test to regulate if a computer could "think". He basically said that is a person could ask a question of a computer, and get a response that he could not distinguish from a human response, then that computer could potentially "think".
mr.kesh.i'm wilson.yesterday you give me the assignment on the internet and left your e-mail address.but i forget to mark the address and send my assignment to the address that you gave me in class.is it a problem?could you recall me by email as quickly as you can?
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